Bill Maher has suggested that the Democrats need to fight as dirty as the Republicans do. The Dems are too nice, he says. They follow all the traditional rules of politics. The Republicans, on the other hand, lie and cheat and make their own rules. And they play by their own dirty rules.
So Maher and his Real Time with Bill Maher staff put together this commercial that they think the Dems should air. And you know what? I couldn’t agree more! It’s time for the Dems to start playing by their own rules too. Otherwise, America is fucked!
This, That, and the Other 
….I’m an avid TV avoider so…are those clips ‘real’ or an attempt to be as manipulative and dirty as the GOP?
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I’ve seen all of those live and on various news station. It’s true. The guy is — aside from his other issue — suffering from dementia. So was Reagan and his wife ran the country. For that matter, so was Woodrow Wilson — but him, it was a massive stroke — and HIS wife ran the country. This isn’t the first time it has happened and been covered up. It’s at least the third time and there may be more that we don’t know about.
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But with Trump, there’s no covering it up. It’s right there for all to see and here because he’s always in front of the cameras. Tonight, after the Super Bowl, he tweeted a congratulatory message to the Kansas City Chiefs and talked about how they “represented the great state of Kansas.” The only problem is that the Chiefs play in Kansas City, Missouri!
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Well….this “president” has his ‘family’ (namely sons and SIL) running the country along with the whole GOBC (good ‘ole boys club)
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Apparently his base neither knows or cares.
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I think the latter.
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Those clips are, indeed, real. They’re not deepfakes or in any way manipulated.
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WOW! And yet, he still has the ‘strong base support’. The American denial is strong.
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The people who need to see it don’t watch news — or they just watch Faux News which is not like watching real news.
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People – such as myself – who’ve ‘disconnected’ for emotional self-preservation are not aware of all details. However, news or media is like an odorless gas, it seeps and you are not even conscious of it…so I have some awareness of what’s going on…just not all the daily, redundant minutiae.
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This is EXACTLY what Tom Curley has been saying and you know what? I agree. This isn’t dirty. This is true. We’ve ALL seen it. I’m gonna reblog this. I bet it’ll get a few more reblogs.
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Reblogged this on Serendipity Seeking Intelligent Life on Earth and commented:
What a pity we don’t seem to be able to just tell the truth. Because this isn’t digging up dirt. Trump has dug up plenty of his own dirt, no need for someone else to go digging. But his obvious lapses into either dementia and mini-strokes is not small issue. Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer’s and his wife ran the last years of his presidency. We didn’t find out until after he left office. Woodrow Wilson suffered a massive stroke and HIS wife rant the country for years. So this is not the first time this problem has arisn and both other time — like this one — it has been covered up. His mental health — or lack thereof — is terrifying. This man has the nuclear codes and a brain full of marshmallows.
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Maybe Melania will run the country, like Nancy Reagan and Edith Wilson did. 🤪
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That is the funniest thing you’ve ever said.
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🤪
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You know, in this alternate reality, it might happen. Why not? Everything ELSE has happened!
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The show was really funny last night. I loved this spoof ad they put together.
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No no no! He;s already brought the standards of Americans down to the gutter. I can barely still be proud to be an American, what with the lies (I’ve grown skeptical of all corporations, even businesses, now); retaliation, greed, misogyny, gangsterism narcissism and bullying. Why give up our own self respect to “get even?” To become like him?,
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45% percent of Americans and 90% of Republicans buy into all of his lies and seem not to be bothered by his misdeeds. They watch only Fox News or read only conservative columnists. I agree with you that we shouldn’t have to stoop to their level, but sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
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How about fighting fire with a fire hose?
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I love these metaphors,lol
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That could work, too!
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I hope they do! It should be a level playing field.
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His two commercials were the low point of the Super Bowl for me.
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I recorded the game because I had a lot to do today (and it started out here at 3:30), so when I started watching it, I was able to hit fast forward so that I didn’t have to watch his commercials.
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Fandango: The Dems need to get their act together. They need a political version of Patriots’ Coach, Bill Belichek. Seriously. Someone who knows how to WIN. BB uses the right strategy, the right plays and doesn’t suffer fools or players who don’t perform up to their abilities. “Tip” O’Neill was a Coach Bill. He called the plays for the Democratic Party and ran a tight ship while maintaining a civil relationship with “the other team”. Weak Nellies, Extremists and Ding Bats didn’t fare well under Tip’s party leadership. His slogan, “All Politics Are Local” resonated with the country who didn’t feel ignored in small hamlets or big cities. That was the Achilles heel in the ‘16 campaign of Hilliard Clinton. Her hubby, “Bubba”, had Tip’s instincts but Hilliary didn’t want any part of Bill in her run for the White House. She let personal stuff interfere with politics. A huge no-no. The current crop of Democratic candidates need to be pared down quickly with a “Coach” supporting the person with the best chance of going head-to-head with Donzo like it was a WWE wrestling match. It IS a political wrestling match with lots of MUD. The Clock. Is ticking, Pilgrims.
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I’m posting this, but Garry wrote it, but his comment vanished. Another WP glitch. I copied it from my site. this is HIS personal rant, that the Democratic party need to literally “get its house in order.”
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I fear that the Bernie fans will do again in 2020 what they did in 2016. It will be Bernie or Bust, and if he doesn’t get the nomination, and I personally hope he doesn’t, these avid Bernie fans won’t vote for whoever does win the nomination. And by not biting, these Bernie fanatics could just give Trump another four years.
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They are almost as moronic as Trump followers. Trump and Bernie are really ONE guy — left and right, except Bernie’s lies are more of omission or bad guesswork than outright lies. Regardless, Bernie is very unlikely to beat Trump in a national election. Not impossible, but unlikely and I don’t like him at all. Another blowhard who is sure he’s more important than we are, no matter what he says.
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That’s pretty much my take on Bernie.
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No one in my family likes him. Owen is pro Pete, Garry and I are Warren/Yang, but are sorry that no one takes Steyer seriously. He’s a very smart guy. No one likes Bernie and nobody trusts him or thinks he has a chance — even if elected — of accomplishing anything.
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Even my Granddaughter dislikes Bernie. She says he looks like his head is going to explode and he should be in a nursing home, not running for President. i think she’s got an eye on Warren. Most people in Massachusetts really like her. She’s “home grown.”
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I like Warren a lot.
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For the record, I take Steyer seriously. And I like him for being smart and successful (without relying on his dad’s name and losing most of the millions of Trump’s dad’s money) and progressive.
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But nationally, they are dismissing him. And yet he would be a really good candidate. He can make the numbers add up and I think he could bring over a lot of disaffected Republicans.
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As a Californian, I have to say that Steyer seems to have come out of nowhere — nobody had heard of him until he declared himself a candidate, and I’m still not sure what he contributes to the slate other than climate change (which I do believe is a primary concern) and a lot of money and honesty. Haven’t heard him say anything about foreign relations, or a lot of other domestic issues. I am very impressed by Klobuchar — hope she’ll be a VP candidate if she can’t pull herself into consideration for top candidate. Not at all Bernie, but Biden, Warren and Mayor Pete better. I’m amazed at the Iowa caucuses, with open public voting and the ability to change votes after the first go-round!
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Except they seem to have lost the votes. It’s getting late here … and they don’t have the votes counted.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480186-south-carolina-woman-behind-popular-obama-slogan-says-she-backs-steyer
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You don’t remember the Hillary fans in 2008 who said they wouldn’t vote for Barack? You haven’t heard the Democrats, now, who have said they’d prefer Trump to Bernie (although their friends try to tamp them down in public or their places of work)? I think they will vote that way, or stay away from the polls; I think they’re stupid. You don’t remember how Hillary was in that primary season (2007-2008)? She played dirty, said and did some outrageous things. I won’t be able to get into them all. Here’s a sample of the attitude:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/opinions/when-hillary-clinton-and-barack-obama-had-their-own-meltdown-axelrod/index.html
Obama’s spokesman Robert Gibbs and I hustled up the stairs of the Obama plane to watch from a window.
The conversation seemed to begin calmly enough as Clinton spoke and Obama listened. Then Obama responded. And all hell broke loose.
Clinton’s face hardened. She spoke animatedly and jabbed a finger in Obama’s direction. When he responded by putting a hand on her shoulder, she pointedly brushed it away.
This went on for 10 minutes, as their two aides, standing nearby, toed the ground and averted their eyes, looking as if they wanted to be anywhere else …
“What the hell is going on over there?” I asked Gibbs.
“I don’t know but she doesn’t look too happy,” he said.
Later, we learned that Clinton had proffered the expected apology and disclaimer. But when Obama raised other actions by her campaign he felt were out of bounds, Clinton became incensed and disgorged her own litany of complaints about our campaign tactics.
When Obama returned to the plane, he flopped down in a seat, a look of disbelief on his face as he recounted the conversation.
“For the first time in this campaign, I saw fear in her eyes,” he said.
Obama and Clinton were friends before the campaign of 2008. ….
(No, this isn’t a story about Jan Brewer.)
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https://www.politico.com/story/2012/01/tiff-on-the-tarmac-obama-fights-back-072100
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I remember. It makes my brain itch.
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I’ve no doubt that there were some ugly issues between Clinton and Obama leading up to Obama’s nomination back in 2008, but back then I wasn’t as obsessed with politics as I am now. I figured that, after Dubya, either Clinton or Obama would be a better choice than McCain/Palin and I was pretty stoked about the possibility of either our first female or first black president. But with the moronic asshole we currently have in the White House, I can’t be as nonchalant as I was 12 years ago.
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That’s pretty much my point. There are Democrats who still think stubborn attitudes are in order. Some (as corporatists) even prefer Trump to most of the current Democrats in the field (especially against the real progressives). What if those Hillary fans being so negative and not voting for Barack had meant Obama didn’t win? Palin for Vice President. At least the presidential nominee would’ve been McCain and not quite a Trump template. Was it a forgone conclusion that Obama was going to win in 2008? But Obama won despite the sore-loser Democrats, because Obama was an outstanding candidate and hadn’t made excuses and accusations in retaliation for a spouse’s bad behavior — to side with Mr. President while claiming to be about women (at least for women who don’t bake cookies, which, non-cookie-bakers, ironically, probably includes Melania). I hold back from criticizing almost any Democrat (except for the idea of Clinton getting back in now); the stakes are too high. If nothing else, we should all refrain from depressing turnout.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/03/12/4-4-million-2012-obama-voters-stayed-home-in-2016-more-than-a-third-of-them-black/
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/12/29/2016-vs-2012-how-trumps-win-and-clintons-votes-stack-up-to-obama-and-romney/#3d6eeabb1661
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_and_liberal_support_for_John_McCain_in_2008
After Clinton’s June 8 concession, 40% of women who supported Clinton described themselves as dissatisfied and 7% described themselves as angry; 25% said they would support McCain in November.
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While I found that number at Wikipedia, it is based on this official news article from back then:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162_pf.html
But what I remember firsthand is so many people who had promoted Hillary in the 2007-08 selection season coming on television news to angrily say they wouldn’t support O[bama]. Sometimes, it was about the identity of being a woman. Sometimes it was about fear that Obama would govern like a socialist or that the market/s would go down or not recover [which could be just about sentiment and not him being a socialist — even though he did use terminology like “redistribute” resources].
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[ Dagflabbit! I have to correct myself; what I saw him say, directly, in 2012, included the “wealth” part of classic wording for social responsibility, not the redistribute part: “…spread the wealth around.” Funnily enough, there wasn’t a systematic hubub made of it… at first. ]
I’ll now, upon reflection, include additional information to make this post of mine more worthwhile or worth the space.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481053-michael-moore-clinton-comments-about-sanders-divisive-cruel-and-a-lie
“He did 39 rallies on his own for Hillary. When Hillary lost to Barack Obama in the primaries of [2008], she did 12,” Moore said. “Bernie did 39, he supported her…
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Chaos … in Iowa as [Bernie delegates are “mistakenly” (temporarily) awarded to someone else]
While this video says there is “no evidence” errors in “the app” are systematically tilted to favor Buttigieg, I also have seen evidence shared — which isn’t, as such, proof.
I participated in a caucus in 2016 (or 15). There was a pro-Hillary person in charge. The situation was run decently, overall. The location, in an upper-middle-class neighborhood, was greatly in favor of Bernie; trying to get away with too much wasn’t feasible… but there were two odd displays I remember. The earlier one involved the fact there was a third named choice who caucus goers could choose. It was a foreign type name, I don’t recall what it was. The person in charge of the whole place actually made fun of the name (like “whoever” that is if you can even “pronounce” it) when the moment came to walk to that area of the caucusing site. The other, yet more disturbing, matter was at the end; when delegates were being chosen. Although there were an equal number of female and male caucus goers present for Bernie as well as willing to be delegates — and although the rules were supposed to provide for equal male and female — the person in charge [not, to be clear and reiterate, not a Bernie backer but entrusted with the goings on] of the full caucus made sure only male delegates were chosen to be sent for him.
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Clog the lines: Internet trolls …
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https://www.msnbc.com/hallie-jackson/watch/-clog-the-lines-internet-trolls-jammed-iowa-caucus-hotline-for-reporting-results-78229061879
I don’t know why the imbed didn’t “take” in my previous post.
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We, as a nation, have been encountering problems with computers since at least 1980 as we choose leaders.
http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2016-02-02
On the ground, in Iowa, that year, something went wrong. Something really
specific went wrong. Iowa public television went back to it recently.
They did kind of an autopsy of what happened there – a moment by moment
reconstruction of what went so wrong and had such dramatic consequences for
the country, on the ground, at the Iowa caucuses in 1980.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NARRATOR: Republican Party of Iowa reporting system was built on brand new
computers technology designed to compile data phoned in from rural and
urban corners of the Iowa.
STEVE ROBERTS: We did it in an effort to get a fast response to the many
people who wanted to know what happened in 2,531 different meetings or what
the strength was. And a day or two later wasn`t fast enough. This was the
fastest way we could come up with.
NARRATOR: Despite the best intentions of reliability, the system
ultimately failed on caucus night.
JOHN SEARS: We haven`t been able to get much out of western part of the
state. We expect to be quite strong.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bush took on an early lead as the late vote started to
come in. The computers crashed. No real hope of getting them started
again. Reporters, I got to write a lead. Bush won.
DOUG CROSS: Without them stopping the counting in some of these rural
counties in 1980, we wouldn`t have – he would have been vice president.
He wouldn`t have been president. …
Cut to the day after the Republican Caucus in 2016:
Small ripples in the state of Iowa can create very big waves in the whole
world that last for a very, very long time. Last night in Iowa, the winner
on the Republican side was Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Senator Cruz winning
the Iowa caucuses would have not been a shock had the vote happened in
December when he was consistently leading in the Iowa polls.
As we now know, Ted Cruz had not, in fact, won that night — except that he sort of did win in that he got the bragging rights. Donald Trump also got bragging rights, however, supposedly coming in second. But, after all was said and done, the real “winner” (if how the people who showed up to caucus counted and the formula applied) had been Rick Santorum!
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I may have had that last, Santorum, detail mixed up with what happened in 2012 in Iowa. Santorum did run in 2016, too, at the beginning, dropped out after the Iowa results… endorsed Rubio after that.
Trump ended up announcing endorsement of Romney in 2012.
Trump “didn’t like” the 2016 Iowa Republican results in February.
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More slop from 2012 spilling into 2016:
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2016/09/20/jesse-benton-john-tate-sentencing-ron-paul-kent-sorenson-michele-bachmann/90742638/
Ron Paul aides avoid jail time in endorsement scheme
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Former campaign chairman Jesse Benton and campaign manager John Tate will instead spend two years on probation and pay a $10,000 fine for crimes that prosecutors said corrupted the 2012 Iowa caucus process. Prosecutors wanted the political operatives each sentenced to serve more than two years in federal prison.
U.S. District Judge John Jarvey said prison sentences usually work best to deter future white-collar criminals. …
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Neither Benton nor Tate spoke with reporters as they left the federal courthouse in Des Moines. Benton smiled widely and held hands with his wife.
Former deputy campaign manager Dimitri Kesari, who was also convicted in the conspiracy, will be sentenced …
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… Kent Sorenson shockingly switched his allegiance from the campaign of former U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann to support [Ron] Paul days before the first-in-the-nation contest. The switch prompted immediate allegations that Sorenson had been paid by the Paul campaign, which the conservative state senator denied in nationally broadcast television interviews.
But emails, financial records and other documents showed the campaign secretly paid $73,000 to a limited liability company controlled by Sorenson through a third-party video production company. Prosecutors argued the men used the scheme so that publicly available campaign expenditure records filed with the Federal Election Commission would show no payments to Sorenson.
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Ron Paul himself has remained publicly supportive of the aides. He testified as a defense witness at trial in late April, telling jurors that he was confident no employees of his campaign were trying to trick voters. In past testimony, he alleged that federal prosecutors timed the indictment to damage the presidential campaign of his son, Rand Paul.
Paying Sorenson ahead of the 2012 Republican caucus was not illegal. But the prosecutors argued the men violated campaign expenditure reporting and conspiracy laws in their attempt to keep the money hidden. Sorenson violated Iowa Senate ethics rules in accepting the money and was forced to resign in October 2013 in the wake of the growing scandal.
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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2017/03/15/iowa-senator-ron-paul-caucus-president-kent-sorenson-tea-party/99189328/
Former Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson began serving a 15-month prison sentence [in March of 2017], the fallout from a secret plan to accept cash from Ron Paul campaign aides in exchange for his endorsement of the Texas congressman ahead of the 2012 Iowa caucus.
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This ad is an excellent one for the Dems — I do remember some of these bloopers — and there must be more for a whole series of ads between now and November!
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The first time I heard that garble — and realized he could never remember names or numbers or any kind of detail … and remember, coming from New York, Trump has been around a long time. He was not always stupid. I know some of the stupidity is for show, but a lot of it isn’t. He acts a lot like my mother-in-law after dementia set in. Anyone who has had a family member with dementia can recognize the pattern, right down to and including the rage and obvious frustration. The man is NOT capable of running anything, much less the U.S.
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Remember Covfefe!
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😂 Oh yes. How can anyone forget it?
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