61 thoughts on “Insurrection in America

  1. XingfuMama January 6, 2021 / 12:50 pm

    If Republicans do nothing they are also guilty of sedition and every congressperson who played into to this game should be charged and removed from office as well.

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  2. Marilyn Armstrong January 6, 2021 / 1:07 pm

    You know, I was warned — more than a year ago and maybe more than two years ago — that this was going to happen. I didn’t doubt it, but excuse me WHERE THE HELL IS THE NATIONAL GUARD? They KNEW this was “on the table.” This wasn’t a surprise. No shock here. This is exactly what everyone expected.

    I thought I would be angry, but I’m sad. All I feel like doing is crying. I cannot believe that this is happening in my country. I can’t fathom this. I really don’t have anything to say, but tears to shed.

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    • Fandango January 6, 2021 / 1:45 pm

      My eyes are welling as I sit here watching the carnage that was instigated and encouraged by the madman in the White House.

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  3. James Pyles January 6, 2021 / 1:15 pm

    Minority opinion here. Even Mitt Romney used the term “insurrection” in quotes. After reading about these events, I can see your point, but frankly it would take more time to impeach (again) Trump than he has left in office. Why not wait until he leaves office, and then if anyone wants to charge him with a crime, arrest, and try him, they’ll be free to do so at their leisure.

    Oh, and apparently Trump called the National Guard to suppress the protestors and keep the peace.

    If you’re going to use the term “insurrection,” next time you might want to post a link to your source. I can take breaks in my work day, but I can’t watch the news constantly. Oh, here’s a source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/romney-trump-capitol-riots-washington-lockdown-b1783476.html

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    • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 1:40 pm

      Trump is having his happy tv time right now. As President, he’s had more time (all along) for television than you apparently have. But he’s not retired, and he instigates the crazies to believe he actually wants to do the job.

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      • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 1:41 pm

        And half the time he’s not watching tv he’s playing golf.

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      • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 2:41 pm

        To be clear about your article, James, quote:

        Romney blames Trump for inciting ‘insurrection’ as lawmakers plead with violent rioters to disperse from Capitol

        This is what the president has caused today, this insurrection,’ Romney reportedly tells reporter

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      • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 10:33 pm

        https://apple.news/AQOKAX2ajTxKOtIq6tzZULg

        Photos from the scene showed rioters slinging nooses around mannequins, while another was hung on a makeshift platform in clear sight of the Capitol building. 


        ………

        A demonstrator holds a mannequin wearing a noose with “Traitor” written on it during a protest at the Washington Monument in Washington, DC, on, Jan. 6, 2021.

        Chaos erupted on Wednesday after President Donald Trump addressed his supporters and doubled down on unfounded claims of voter fraud.

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      • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 11:34 pm

        The storming of Capitol Hill was organized on social media.

        Just after 1 p.m., when President Trump ended his speech to protesters in Washington by calling for them to march on Congress, hundreds of echoing calls to storm the building were made by his supporters online.

        On social media sites requested by the far-right, such as Gab and Parler, directions on which streets to take to avoid the police and which tools to bring to help pry open doors were exchanged in comments. At least a dozen people posted about carrying guns into the halls of Congress.

        Calls for violence […] have been circulating online for months. Bolstered by Mr. Trump, who has courted fringe movements like QAnon and the Proud Boys, groups have openly organized on social media networks and recruited others to their cause.

        On Gab, they documented going into the offices of members of Congress, including that of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Dozens posted about searching for Vice President Mike Pence, who had been the target of Mr. Trump’s ire earlier in the day.

        At 2:24 p.m., after Mr. Trump tweeted that Mr. Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done,” dozens of messages on Gab called for those inside the Capitol building to hunt down the vice president. In videos uploaded to the channel, protesters could be heard chanting “Where is Pence?”

        As Facebook and Twitter began to crack down groups like QAnon and the Proud Boys over the summer, they slowly migrated to other sites that allowed them to openly call for violence.

        Renee DiResta, a researcher at the Stanford Internet Observatory who studies online movements, said the violence Wednesday was the result of online movements operating in closed social media networks where people believed the claims of voter fraud and of the election being stolen from Mr. Trump.

        “These people are acting because they are convinced an election was stolen,” DiResta said. “This is a demonstration of the very real-world impact of echo chambers.”

        Read more

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    • Fandango January 6, 2021 / 1:49 pm

      Donald Trump should not be permitted to spend one more day as President. He is a traitor to the American democracy and to the Constitution of the United States. There is no excuse for this. Period.

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  4. rugby843 January 6, 2021 / 1:23 pm

    Now he is on tv still not saying Biden won legally. He’s encouraging still, insurrection.

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  5. James Pyles January 6, 2021 / 1:26 pm

    Okay, I did a bit more reading and didn’t realize the violence was that widespread. Yes, it’s heinous and insane, and if you believe that the violence used by the left is wrong, then you have to believe that violence used by the right is equally wrong. Legally, I don’t think there’s anything that can shut Trump’s mouth in the short run, but as I said, after January 20th, he can be charged https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/01/06/capitol-in-lockdown-as-pro-trump-protesters-breach-building/

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    • Fandango January 6, 2021 / 1:57 pm

      James, I think any violent protests — left or right —are wrong. But these Trump-instigated and Trump-encouraged right-wing protesters have stormed the U.S. Capitol building. Some are armed, there have been shots fired in the Capitol building, and there have been injuries. Sedition is defined as “conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.” Donald Trump is guilty of sedition.

      As to the National Guard, the governors of Virginia and Maryland, as the mayor of Washington, DC initiated those calls.

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      • James Pyles January 6, 2021 / 2:36 pm

        I’m not disagreeing to you and I have a sick feeling in my stomach that come January 20th Trump will still refuse to leave the White House. I’m sure I owe you an apology because you predicted this. I just couldn’t believe at this stage of the game, he wouldn’t be able to see the writing on the wall and concede. Unfortunately, this isn’t the end. It’s only the beginning and violence from both extremes isn’t going to stop after Biden is inaugurated.

        As far as Trump’s guilt, that’s up to a court, and he can’t be arrested until after the 20th.

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        • Fandango January 6, 2021 / 2:59 pm

          Yes, I have been predicting this fir a while, but I was hoping that my predictions would prove to be wrong. And this “insurrection” is not going to over tonight. I have the same pit in my stomach about the days leading up to January 20th, that day, and the days after. Mike Pence and the members of the cabinet should invoke the 25th amendment immediately.

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        • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 3:07 pm

          James quote: … both extremes isn’t going to stop after Biden is inaugurated.

          Protesting the public strangulation of a non-violent man (and others) isn’t extreme in the same way as is being angry and storming public buildings during official proceedings and hurting people over your pick for president not winning in a democracy.

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        • rugby843 January 6, 2021 / 3:53 pm

          He is so guilty of so much and slithers away from prosecution. Janmes you need to wake up

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  6. Jen Goldie January 6, 2021 / 1:32 pm

    Trump “WE LOVE YOU” “YOU’RE SPECIAL” But pwease go home”
    We know they hurt us but pwease go

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  7. Don't Forget the Half January 6, 2021 / 1:34 pm

    There’s so much I could say about this debacle but suffice it to say I’m embarrassed by the actions of these American citizens and lack of response by law enforcement, especially considering their extreme use of force and crowd control tactics during other recent (relatively peaceful) protests.

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    • Marleen January 6, 2021 / 3:14 pm

      I, too, wonder at the lack of preparedness for this day at a key location.

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  8. Marleen January 6, 2021 / 1:48 pm

    I don’t know if they have enough confirmed cabinet members to apply the twenty-fifth amendment. Pence put out a strong statement.

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  9. Marleen January 6, 2021 / 2:15 pm

    Sedition: Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Giuliani.

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  10. Taze January 6, 2021 / 2:27 pm

    If this crowd was majority Black and ‘fighting’ for BLM or, if it was Muslims or LTGBQ or any other “minority/disenfranchised” people, there’d be consequences: National Guard, rubber bullets, batons, etc. As Trump said way back in the beginning; I could shoot someone on the street and nothing will happen to me; apparently his sycophants are above the law of the country as well.

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  11. Marleen January 7, 2021 / 12:41 am

    Joy Reid (who covered the Freddie Gray killing in 2014) reminds that President Trump said, on December nineteenth to his marks (idiotic followers and funders who he scams and stokes), “See you on January sixth; it’s gonna be wild.”

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  12. Marleen January 7, 2021 / 1:17 am

    General Barry McCaffrey (retired from the Army) says “this is a direct criminal action by the president of the United States to overturn an election … Trump is a rogue president.”

    This is a federal protection responsibility … not DC cops or the mayor. A Department of Justice failure of security for White House, Supreme Court, and capital building/Congress.

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  13. Olga Brajnović January 7, 2021 / 3:35 am

    Forgive me for intervening in this conversation as I am from another country. Seen from the outside, it is clear that there should be a means to remove Trump from power immediately, perhaps through the 25th Amendment. What he did yesterday was a coup. Throwing his people against the legislative branch, knowing that there was going to be violence, cannot be called otherwise. Fortunately, it has gone wrong for him, but he cannot go unpunished after what he has done.
    He cannot be in office for another second because he is a danger to his country and the world.
    Yesterday, who acted as a true president was Joe Biden with his public statement.

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    • Marleen January 7, 2021 / 8:06 am

      He is a danger not only to our country but also to the world if he remains unchecked/unpunished. I pray clarity and courage will be found and applied.

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    • Fandango January 7, 2021 / 11:11 pm

      “… but he cannot go unpunished after what he has done. He cannot be in office for another second because he is a danger to his country and the world.” I wish we could get him out of office immediately, but unfortunately that’s not likely.

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    • Marleen January 8, 2021 / 9:49 am

      Governor Hogan: Maryland’s requests … were repeatedly denied

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    • Fandango January 8, 2021 / 11:11 am

      I saw him at a press conference that Rachel Maddow showed.

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      • Marleen January 9, 2021 / 11:53 am

        I saw this recording online before Rachel was on, but then he has been on again… for instance, I think Andrea Mitchell interviewed him Friday morning. He is one of the Republicans who, for a long time now, hasn’t bent over for Donald Trump and has spoken out about Trump wrongdoing.

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        • Marleen January 9, 2021 / 12:11 pm

          I say that based on my long-term observation of him. It’s not about the kind of historical revisionism some Republicans have been trying to pull off in the last couple days.

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        • Marleen January 9, 2021 / 3:07 pm

          Along with the interview of Larry Hogan, Andrea had additional important interviews that morning/yesterday (Friday). One of them has not been included on the website. It could be interpreted as embarrassing for the guest, who was basically a liaison for the Pentagon but in the form of a journalist. That one seemed to be spewing lines directly designed to cover the butts of defense department or department of justice brass (along with confusion over the authority of the mayor in D.C., who does not have jurisdiction over the federal buildings). Andrea called that guest out on the lack of pertinent information, to say the least. It’s difficult to convey succinctly, for the general public, all of the lines for authority in that key geographical location. But it’s easy enough to add additional misunderstanding and cloudiness to the topic. I suppose that other interaction wasn’t considered helpful for mass consumption.

          On the other hand, the interview directly with the mayor of D.C. was much better than the one that isn’t available. Still, only a portion has been posted to the website.

          The latter half of this piece shows her indicating it would be better for the mayor of the city to have oversight of National Guard like governors do (since D.C. isn’t in a state):

          https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/dc-mayor-bowser-calling-for-a-congressional-inquiry-into-security-failures-99155013941

          ANDREA MITCHELL REPORTS
          DC Mayor Bowser calling for a congressional inquiry into security failures

          Jan. 8, 2021

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