23 thoughts on “They Used to Hang Traitors

  1. Marleen March 13, 2019 / 10:48 am

    There is a serious discrepancy in this country on how different people are punished for crime. It’s a terrible problem, it’s ruining us.

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  2. Kat Myrman March 13, 2019 / 11:07 am

    Meanwhile the rich pay bribes to send their worthless children to college. The unbalanced perks of privilege are coming out of the shadows to show us all who really matters in our broken society. Hint: it isn’t your average Joe…and certainly not the poor…🙁

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  3. Paula Light March 13, 2019 / 12:39 pm

    We gleefully cheer when a few celebs are taken down (I do too), but things will continue on as usual with the powerful doing as they please.

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    • Fandango March 13, 2019 / 4:18 pm

      You have a strange way of defining “traitor.”

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      • Asbestos Dust March 13, 2019 / 5:19 pm

        Not at all. These are people who actively work to destroy our country and way of life. Manafort is just an asshole criminal. You’d as well call Sammy The Bull Gravano a traitor because he does stuff that affects lots of people and was a power freak. Kill him if you want — I’m a death penalty believer — but calling him a “traitor” is a buzzword misappropriation of a defined crime. If you must use it, it fits AOC, Rashida, and Ilian WAY better than some DC thug whose going to spend decades in prison before it’s all said and done. Didn’t see ya’ slinging a rope at that power-hungry any-felony-for-another-piece-of-the-pie Hillary when SHE was playing the game. I don’t think she’s a traitor either — just another asshole criminal who can swing off the same gallows as Manafort, for all I care. The other three, on the other hand, are actively treasonous. See how it works?

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        • Fandango March 13, 2019 / 7:48 pm

          I’m not going to be baited into another pointless debate with you. I refer you to the transcript of what the judge said today right before issuing her sentence on Paul Manafort.

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          • Asbestos Dust March 14, 2019 / 8:09 am

            “I’m not going to be baited into another pointless debate with you.”

            Sure you will. Sooner or later.

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  4. Marleen March 13, 2019 / 4:53 pm

    Manafort pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the United States and conspiracy witness tampering, and is guilty of additional crimes besides.

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    • Fandango March 13, 2019 / 7:53 pm

      Seriously? You never heard of Paul Manafort? He was Donald Trump’s campaign manager. Google him.

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      • crushedcaramel March 14, 2019 / 4:09 am

        I will. Maybe this is because every time I see anything about Brexit or American politics on TV, I change the channel?

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  5. Marilyn Armstrong March 13, 2019 / 7:56 pm

    Remarkably, I remain against the death penalty. Killing people is wrong. My mother didn’t agree with me and for a long time, GARRY didn’t agree with me. It’s a personal issue. Massachusetts has had the death penalty issue come up repeatedly and never passed it. It never flew here. It did pass in New York and then was rescinded. If killing is wrong, it’s wrong. At least that’s how I see it.

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    • Fandango March 13, 2019 / 9:24 pm

      I’m essentially against the death penalty, but for being a traitor to your country. I might make an exception.

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  6. Marleen March 14, 2019 / 12:21 am

    I just wish he would get the max in the guideline range…
    and, especially, not UNDER the guideline range!

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  7. Marleen March 19, 2019 / 6:25 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/17/paul-manafort-sentencing-white-collar-criminals

    ….

    The first sentence meted out to Manafort in Virginia would be seen as entirely misguided by almost all legal experts. … The punishment amounted to nothing more than a slap on the wrist [and was below the lowest level penalty of the guideline range].

    Manafort’s second sentence in Washington DC given by a more measured jurist was still quite magnanimous given the charges, which included witness tampering, and was well under the maximum penalty of 10 years. Public outrage over the sentences is not surprising. A number of issues are at play that assure that most white-collar offenders will get off lightly; or not be caught at all.

    First, consider that Paul Manafort, who the Virginia judge erroneously concluded led a “blameless life” would still be committing major financial frauds had he not put himself in the spotlight by volunteering to run Trump’s campaign. ….

    ……….

    … Criminological research demonstrates that white-collar defendants are likely to fare well compared with lower-status offenders. In a study of doctors convicted of fraud in California, for example, it was found that physicians were sanctioned significantly less than other first-time offenders who, on average, stole 10 times less. …

    … Since such crimes must be proactively policed by persons well-trained to do so, that means funding regulatory and policing agencies at much higher levels as well as sustained attention toward effective policies to induce compliance with the law.

    ……

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